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president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last night. my impression is he would like to see if we can move forward. >> you can't legislate with yours
president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop....
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what is going on now, 30 minutes from now, any moment, they're starting to arrive, we have boehner, pelosi, mcconnell, reid. they're on capitol hill. what can president obama offer that both sides can agree to. >> unfortunately for individual members of the republican house it is to their interest to let tax increases go into effect. that way they won't be viewed as having raised taxes. they can come in and easier to negotiate with them. what the president, what we are hearing about what the president is proposing though, is a small deal to get them through the fiscal cliff so that it avoids some of the implications, some of the more damaging implications for the economy. i don't think the fiscal cliff honestly is really going to have a huge impact. our housing market and labor market remained firm and i think they can survive this. but i do think that though, that if the president does offer this smaller deal i think there's opportunity here, though it is probably slim. heather: that smaller deal, or that plan-c as the president has called it, i guess last friday or we're calling it now p
what is going on now, 30 minutes from now, any moment, they're starting to arrive, we have boehner, pelosi, mcconnell, reid. they're on capitol hill. what can president obama offer that both sides can agree to. >> unfortunately for individual members of the republican house it is to their interest to let tax increases go into effect. that way they won't be viewed as having raised taxes. they can come in and easier to negotiate with them. what the president, what we are hearing about what...
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okay, dave, there are five guys, four guys, pelosi, boehner, reid and mcconnell, along with president obama, who might want to watch this segment. how did you do it in warren county, ohio? >> well, we try to keep it simple. me and two others don't think this government stuff is all that hard. hard is being out of a job and not being able to make your mortgage payment. hard is having a sick child. running a government and living within your means, not hard. so really the folks in washington should try to put aside some of their own petty concerns and say, let's be a statesman. let's step up and try to do what's right for the country. >> eric: how did you do it? did you raise taxes? looks like you have a projected $20 million reserve fund for next year. how? explain how did you it. >> yes. essentially we try -- we're 220,000 person county outside of cincinnati, home of great corporate citizens like procter & gamble and others. we got king's island, western southern tennis tournament is housed in warren county. what we trio do is foster environment where people and businesses want to com
okay, dave, there are five guys, four guys, pelosi, boehner, reid and mcconnell, along with president obama, who might want to watch this segment. how did you do it in warren county, ohio? >> well, we try to keep it simple. me and two others don't think this government stuff is all that hard. hard is being out of a job and not being able to make your mortgage payment. hard is having a sick child. running a government and living within your means, not hard. so really the folks in...
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official saying the president will movie theater harry reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner and nancy pelosi. if they can't work this out and we go over the cliff it means smaller pay checks automatic spending cuts and according to some economists possibly another recession. molly henneberg tracking developments tonight at the white house. what are you hearing? >> hi, harris. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell confirmed it and the white house made it official. there will be a hearing here tomorrow according to a white house aide. it will be on the schedule that the president will talk fiscal cliff with those four top congressional leaders that you mentioned, harris. the president returned to washington today. he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here i
official saying the president will movie theater harry reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner and nancy pelosi. if they can't work this out and we go over the cliff it means smaller pay checks automatic spending cuts and according to some economists possibly another recession. molly henneberg tracking developments tonight at the white house. what are you hearing? >> hi, harris. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell confirmed it and the white house made it official. there will be a hearing...
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senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because some say there is a lot of political posturing going on. you have said the feeling in washington it might actually be better to go over the cliff and come back and negotiate. why? >> yeah. now, this is of course purely political campaign calculation here, tossing aside the nation's fiscal health frankly. for both side i think there is good argument to be made for congressional leaders, democratic leaders and republican leaders in particular, there may be less political risk here actually if we do go over the cliff and figure out a solution very quickly afterwards. if you go back to what
senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections...
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his second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's president obama that needs to take a page out of the play book of clinton to be able to move more to the middle. >> kelly: okay. and core of both of your arguments, here is what we're seeing on capitol hill as well, members of both sides of the aisle can't agree to disagree on things, there's no common ground. here is the way that people's business is being conducted so far as we've seen from mike emanuel's report. democrat leaders are hammering out deal they can pass and hopefully angela and mark, he see it get passed in the house before the automatic tax increases and deep spending cuts actually go into effect on january 1st, 20113, which is now some 48 hours away. do they have enough time to get it done? >>
his second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's president obama that needs to take a page out of the play book of clinton to be able to move...
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who know hows pelosi would vote -- who knows how pelosi would vote. now it is strictly on the senate. >> coming man frost quick question before we leave, the speaker, speaker boehner, moved more toward what president obama wants. that's in terms of the limits of who would see higher taxes. do you think that was a step in the right direction? >> i think it was exactly the right thing for the speaker to have done. i just feel sorry for him that his own party wouldn't support him. what should have happened is this should have been brought up for a vote. boehner should have been able to get his own party to support it and send it back to the senate and see what they would do. he failed to get his own people behind him, and that's a disaster. >> i will leave it there. to be factually correct moments ago congressman peter king, a republican, was sitting here and says he did support the speaker plan. >> of course he did. he couldn't get enough republicans. >> you said the entire party. i want to make clear. >> no, the entire party didn't. >> thank you. >> th
who know hows pelosi would vote -- who knows how pelosi would vote. now it is strictly on the senate. >> coming man frost quick question before we leave, the speaker, speaker boehner, moved more toward what president obama wants. that's in terms of the limits of who would see higher taxes. do you think that was a step in the right direction? >> i think it was exactly the right thing for the speaker to have done. i just feel sorry for him that his own party wouldn't support him. what...
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nancy pelosi was put in as speaker. they passed obama care and all of this other stuff on the nation. but then in 2010 those moderate democrats or conservative democrats were defeated by conservative republicans who ran as pro life, pro marriage and smaller government and less taxes and that we have now the most conservative house of representatives in modern history. those issues win when they come from the heart as you have shown and then you can talk about them. the problem is we've got some republicans that only want to talk about these things at election time only to check the boxes and not because it eminates from the heart. >> it is going to be an interesting time to watch and see if the message continues to permeate in the leadership of the party. you are right. if it does, and the pro life and pro family voters who are by the way always fiscal conservatives, if they have no where else to go , they will either create a third party movement, they will become independent and support possibly even conservative demo
nancy pelosi was put in as speaker. they passed obama care and all of this other stuff on the nation. but then in 2010 those moderate democrats or conservative democrats were defeated by conservative republicans who ran as pro life, pro marriage and smaller government and less taxes and that we have now the most conservative house of representatives in modern history. those issues win when they come from the heart as you have shown and then you can talk about them. the problem is we've got some...
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the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point.
the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what...
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so the politics worked out well for pelosi. it's a total mess, dysfunctional and both parties are not covering themselves in glory. >> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yeah, eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and maybe majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is the reason all eyes turned to the senate is the speaker can't get the job done thursday on plan b. plan a is essentially the big deal, the $4 trillion debt plan. i was speaking a short time ago to a white house official that happened they believe the president moved halfway towards the republicans starting at only want to go raise taxes on $250,000 and above. he moved that goalpost to $400,000 or more. speaker baner was far away saying it should be $1 million . he brought it up and had to pull it back. there
so the politics worked out well for pelosi. it's a total mess, dysfunctional and both parties are not covering themselves in glory. >> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yeah, eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and...
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the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point.
the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what...
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the president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mcconnell, you don't need his support because the democrat controlled center. it is a sit doesn't have a -- >> mcconnell is very important because in the senate, you need a super majority to pass. a reason why i think if there's some kind of a deal, and i'm not that optimistic, why it has to start in the senate is you need republicans to buy in, even a little bit, in order to send any measure to the house. so by definition, to get 60 votes, you need republicans on it. that's enough to call whatever the deal is, bipartisan, which may make it easier on the house. as i said, i'm not that optimistic. >> trace: why are you not optimistic? >> part of it is structurele. house members got back at 6:30 sunday night. what if the bad weather comes that's predicted. unless a framework is hammered out that people could agree to, even a stopgap measure, there's not a lot of hours left to get everything down. a realistic deadline is january 3, none, when the new congress comes in because as we just heard, the impact of the fiscal cliff in terms
the president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mcconnell, you don't need his support because the democrat controlled center. it is a sit doesn't have a -- >> mcconnell is very important because in the senate, you need a super majority to pass. a reason why i think if there's some kind of a deal, and i'm not that optimistic, why it has to start in the senate is you need republicans to buy in, even a little bit, in order to send any measure to the house. so by definition, to get 60...
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speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their home districts later this hour. we expect senate republican leader mitch mcconnell to be on the senate floor. the top
speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this...
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had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to proceed. they're waiting for now the white house to make the next move. >> reporter: there is definitely a game of chicken going on where the senate democrats are saying, well we need to know from mcconnell what he is willing to do. mcconnell is saying i will not rubberstamp a plan i haven't seen so you need to lay out a plan. we know from speaker boehner's spokesman he is in ohio. he will let us know if he is coming back to washington. we expect there will be a conference call with house republicans later this afternoon to talk about the way forward on the fiscal cliff. we got this from another hous
had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to...
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in the second part of the proposal he took part of what nancy pelosi offered may of this year to raise taxes of 1 million and above. what has the president offered? and basically jamie with both proposals in ten years we're still going to have 21 trillion dollars worth of debt. >> jamie: angela. >> both proposals-- yes? >> not every republican agrees with speaker boehner on the compromise so there's pushback on both sides from democrats who control the senate and from the president and from some fellow residentiapublicans we taken a step back? i want to ask both of you, angela first. >> here is the rub, president obama knows nothing about being a great legislator and the tea party doesn't either. it's great to run on principle and sign a pledge you won't raise taxes, but in d.c., jamie, you have to compromise. ronald reagan figured that out, bill clinton figured that out, lbj was with the civil rights legislation figured that out. both sides need to come together again, it's on president obama, harry reid and the tea party. >> jamie: let's get michael in here. michael, at this point wh
in the second part of the proposal he took part of what nancy pelosi offered may of this year to raise taxes of 1 million and above. what has the president offered? and basically jamie with both proposals in ten years we're still going to have 21 trillion dollars worth of debt. >> jamie: angela. >> both proposals-- yes? >> not every republican agrees with speaker boehner on the compromise so there's pushback on both sides from democrats who control the senate and from the...
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. >> this was pelosi-schumer proposal, an argument that went nowhere should we have or should not have rate increases. that should be on the agenda. >> arthel: but the president won the election again. he said we wanted higher earners to pay more taxes. >> we let the whole conversation to be about tax revenue which even the commission says is only one-tenth of the problem. nine tenths revolve around meaningful spending cuts and entitlement reform a which we're not going to get in a stopgap measure that looks to be a the conclusion of the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> arthel: which is kind of pa they had i can. honestly, they know all these talks have been on the table for a long time. if economists are suggests that go a combination of fax increases along with $56 billion in spending cuts could knock the economy back into a recession what is the argument? >> i agree. it is pathetic but there isn't an argument for why, especially the tea party members. i think boehner has been more flexible. he just doesn't have control over his party. he has members in the congress who are willing to h
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number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't work, the president's going to have egg on his face, right? >> no, not at all. gregg: come on. >> the president has come back with a compromise. the people that have egg on their face are republicans. they've taken intractable positions where as the president has made concessions, boehner cannot show leadership to get anything passed through his congress right now. and, quite frankly, they're being sort of held by the tea party against some extraordinary positions that they have to take at a time when the paradigm has shifted. so i think the country is recognizing that the country -- gregg: looking a
number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't...
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member of the house, now the mayor of san diego was complaining about the kpw same thing out of the pelosi leadership for several years. let's look at what is more important. harry reid is there today, instead of taking up the bill that he should be taking up he's using this to make political points. i think that says a lot of about where we are heading. patti ann: congressman thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. gregg: fox news alert just learned now that the head of the epa, the environmental protection agency, is quitting. lisa jackson announcing she will leave her post next month. during her tenure she pushed through some of the toughest regulations on vehicle emissions and coal processing plants, proptin prompting republicans to accuse her of waging war on coal. president obama praised her for her work. in enacting those reforms. she reportedly has not accepted any other job at this time and she was in a bit of trouble for some of her email accounts recently. and some of her other remarks as well. let's go to jon scott, what is happening now, jon johnsto. jon: the pre
member of the house, now the mayor of san diego was complaining about the kpw same thing out of the pelosi leadership for several years. let's look at what is more important. harry reid is there today, instead of taking up the bill that he should be taking up he's using this to make political points. i think that says a lot of about where we are heading. patti ann: congressman thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. gregg: fox news alert just learned now that the head of the...
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couple months, but years, his omb, budget, the money necessary to run the programs he wanted and nancy pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of the party or does he want taxes to go up and blame the republican. >> harris: first time since 1970 congress is working between christmas and new years. how do you negotiate with someone who is determined basically to see is fail and see us go over into extreme high taxes? >> we don't and one of the most insightful things i've read in the the last couple of weeks, the dialog between mr. boehner and the president off the election and mr. boehner put 800 billion of revenues on the table and talking about negotiations and the president says i get that for free, i'm not giving you anything for 800 billion dollars. and washington is a rumor mill, as you can probably mante imagine, and
couple months, but years, his omb, budget, the money necessary to run the programs he wanted and nancy pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of the party or does he want taxes to go up and blame the republican. >>...